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Loved this post - found it in your twitter thread and I’m feeling sad I hadn’t come across your work sooner.

Thurston’s ‘third thing’! Yes!

I’m convinced that there’s a huge blindspot over imagination, simply thinking about something in a certain way, that ‘wreckless process’ done free of judgement (in our own heads), and what can grow out of this. The repetitive mental habits that compound over time, shaping skills in ways that aren’t obvious til later.

Seeing a person juggle for the first time might look like sorcery. But they simply tried to do something seemingly impossible until something clicked and suddenly they’ve chained a series of simple tasks into a spectacle.

What’s happening in a child’s imagination, while they stare vacantly at a leaf might be causing all kinds of miraculous leaps, of those ‘clicks’ happening and being chained together. Two years later they appear so inexplicably gifted in that thing that it *must* be an aberration.

The example of visual impairment leading to 1 finding an alternative pathway to visualising depth 2 finding this pathway makes it easier to vidualise 4th and 5th etc..

Is perfect. Limitation in one domain leading to excelling elsewhere.

In Oliver Sacks book Island of the colourblind, the tribes of Pinglap with achromatopsia there thought that those without it were worse at foraging because they were distracted by colour, and had a very undeveloped sense of material (plant) texture. If we look at b&w photo we can tell from how light diffuses if something’s velvet, metal, etc.

The key word here being ‘developed’. These people were hugely atuned to texture due to a huge limitation, a visual ‘disability’. They had no physical gift, just an absence of one that lead to the nurturing of another talent. They could tell one red berry from another at a distance from its texture alone, which would astound outsiders.

I’m also convinced that even seemingly unrelated factors like being afraid of one’s parents, finding it hard to sleep, or simply being very bored a lot will lead to a child finding imaginative or habitual exercises that keep them distracted from psychic pain. Whether due to positive or negative external forces, habits of the imagination are going to lead to *something* being developed and it might not reveal itself.

It seems fair to say that that exceling in one area often coincides with being unusually deficient elsewhere. Which of course, because there is an opportunity cost to fixating on one thing, especially as a one year old.

Do you think it’s partly to do with the difficulty/impossibility of studying thought, especially in the early years? Ie until there’s evidence of ‘grasping’ something, it’s as though there’s nothing much going on up there except the usual standard development, at differing speeds. It’s like they’re missing the fractal aspect to thought, no?

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Apropos of finding things obvious: I've got no towering mathematical achievements, but I also flunked out of algebra in high school.

After some years of working in the less desirable parts of the building trades I went back to school for the dreaded STEM degree, and easily cruised all the way through all the non specialist math with nary a hitch, from plain algebra to algebra of lines, with some detours to thinking about numbers as discrete entities along the way and also "These curves are funky."

I think I got this improvement when I went from intuitively thinking of math in a symbolic way to thinking of it as ratios and overlaps of spatial volumes. This made all sorts of concepts easier to grasp; I got to help explain limits to the catastrophically young people in my class because it intuitively made sense that you could fit any number of volumes of size nothing within any volume with size something for example.

I know I didn't get smarter; given the number of blows to the head I've taken I'm almost certainly dumber, and I definitely didn't work harder; I barely had to work at all!

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